# š¦ YunoHost 13.0 alpha (Trixie)
**URL:** https://forum.yunohost.org/t/yunohost-13-0-alpha-trixie/40197
**Category:** Announcements
**Tags:** alpha, testing, ynh\_testing\_release
**Created:** [September 25, 2025, 6:51pm UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/yunohost-13-0-alpha-trixie/40197 "2025-09-25T18:51:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 17
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### Author:  [@YunoHost](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/YunoHost)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2025, 6:51pm UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/yunohost-13-0-alpha-trixie/40197/1 "2025-09-25T18:51:46Z")
Hey there !
[Debian 13 Trixie](https://www.debian.org/News/2025/20250809) is out for some time now, and we are working hard on making YunoHost work on it.
Basic functionalities work, and the automated tests pass for most of the apps.
Buuuut the work is not finished ! Email doesnāt work, for sure, but there are probably many other things that are broken too.
**The migration from Debian 12 isnāt written either.**
Anyways, we are happy to announce that we can start asking you, if you are familiar with Linux development and server administration, to install and test Trixie and report for broken stuff.
# š§ š“ **THIS IS ALPHA-STAGE DEVELOPMENT, WE ABSOLUTELY DISCOURAGE ANY USE OF YUNOHOST 13.x (or running the migration to be shipped in 12.x) ON A PRODUCTION SERVER - [IT WILL BREAK](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q8hAb230OE) !** š“ š§
## āÆ How to install
The documentation contains instructions on how to [install a development environment](https://doc.yunohost.org/dev/core/devenv/).
You can either use pre-installed YunoHost Incus images on Trixie.
To install YunoHost on Debian Trixie, please run the install script from the Github repository [as documented](https://doc.yunohost.org/en/dev/core/devenv/#install-a-custom-yunohost-version):
```auto
curl https://raw.githubusercontent.com/YunoHost/install_script/main/trixie | bash -s -- -d unstable
```
## š¾ What to test ?
There are not (yet) many huge changes, but we moved to Pydantic v2, that can trigger issues kinda everywhere.
Apart from validating that the install does work, we encourage you to test every apps and features that you would typically use in a real-life server (so including the webadmin, the user portal, diagnosis, certificates, emails, ā¦).
### Test some apps
You can see [on our dash](https://apps.yunohost.org/dash?hidedeprecated=true&filter=regressions_trixie) that some apps are not passing automated tests on Trixie for now.
But apps that pass automated tests are **NOT** guaranteed to actually work! So _please_ try to install apps and see if they work as you expected!
Thanks **a lot** to everyone who contributed to this alpha, and who will spend time testing it!
## š Preliminary changelog
- Refactorize Apt configuration
- Use conf-regen to manage apt source lists and configuration
- Use the new debian repository [repo.yunohost.org/debian](http://repo.yunohost.org/debian)
- Upgrade the Dovecot configuration for v2.4
- Drop support for Packaging v1
- Require Python v3.13
- Use Pydantic v2
- Replace spwd with direct call to passwd
- Replace mysqlshow, mysqldump with mariadb-show, mariadb-dump
Some future changes are planned and might be of interest to Apps packagers:
- Drop the Yarn deb repository, use Corepack instead
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### Author:  [@Aleks](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/Aleks)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2025, 6:53am UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/yunohost-13-0-alpha-trixie/40197/2 "2025-09-26T06:53:08Z")
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### Author:  [@TabTwo](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/TabTwo)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2025, 10:12am UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/yunohost-13-0-alpha-trixie/40197/3 "2025-09-28T10:12:28Z")
Whats the prefered way of feedback? Issues in Github?
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### Author:  [@Salamandar](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/Salamandar)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2025, 11:15am UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/yunohost-13-0-alpha-trixie/40197/4 "2025-09-28T11:15:43Z")
Iād say Github issue, reply here or ping me on Matrix (@Salamandar:matrix.org) are all fine.
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### Author:  [@maplematt](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/maplematt)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2025, 10:04pm UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/yunohost-13-0-alpha-trixie/40197/5 "2025-10-27T22:04:50Z")
When visiting the System Update screen of the admin interface there is a warning about a new major version of YunoHost with a link to this thread. Is that warning only to inform of the alpha or to warn that performing system updates will change the major version?
I browsed the list of packages and I cannot discern anything that would do such a thing, but I thought it better to ask instead of having a surprise. š
Thanks in advance!
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### Author:  [@Tho](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/Tho)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2025, 12:41pm UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/yunohost-13-0-alpha-trixie/40197/6 "2025-10-28T12:41:31Z")
Could you send a screenshot?
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### Author:  [@benou](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/benou)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2025, 8:24pm UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/yunohost-13-0-alpha-trixie/40197/7 "2025-10-28T20:24:26Z")
I just tried my Yunohost setup with nextcloud and various customization using my automated scripts [1] and it worked almost flawlessly.
The only caveat is rspamd fails to install with `yunohost app install rspamd` because it depends upon libicu72 but Trixie provides libicu76. I guess rspamd is not updated yet and hence the failure?
Thanks for the great work, as usual š
[1] [GitHub - bganne/yunohost at trixie](https://github.com/bganne/yunohost/tree/trixie)
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### Author:  [@Tho](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/Tho)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2025, 9:50pm UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/yunohost-13-0-alpha-trixie/40197/8 "2025-10-28T21:50:30Z")
Indeed, you can see automatic tests fail for rspamd [YunoRunner for CI](https://ci-apps-trixie.yunohost.org/ci/apps/rspamd/)
Last time I checked, rspamd dev must still provide trixie builds
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### Author:  [@Salamandar](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/Salamandar)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2025, 4:32pm UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/yunohost-13-0-alpha-trixie/40197/9 "2025-10-29T16:32:55Z")
Hi, I guess youāre on yunohost 11, and the webadmin just sends you to the Announcement category.
If thatās the case, the version available to you is YunoHost 12, available since ~november 2024.
And, if thatās the case, please upgrade ! \<3
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### Author:  [@maplematt](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/maplematt)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2025, 4:46pm UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/yunohost-13-0-alpha-trixie/40197/10 "2025-10-29T16:46:07Z")
My apologies. Iāve not had the chance to get the screenshot. I do know however that itās 12.x for the ynh version. Iāll get my self a reminder for tonight when I return from work.
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### Author:  [@maplematt](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/maplematt)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2025, 11:54pm UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/yunohost-13-0-alpha-trixie/40197/11 "2025-10-29T23:54:11Z")
Well, I was way too tired when I looked at the system updates page because I realise the link is to the ynh\_release tag. The warning is still confusing however. Including screenshot regardless and the ynh version is currently 12.0.17 (stable).
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### Author:  [@jarod5001](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/jarod5001)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2025, 7:53am UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/yunohost-13-0-alpha-trixie/40197/12 "2025-10-30T07:53:31Z")
You still have php5??
Whatās the output of `yunohost --version `?
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### Author:  [@Salamandar](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/Salamandar)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2025, 8:17am UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/yunohost-13-0-alpha-trixie/40197/13 "2025-10-30T08:17:05Z")
Ah, youāre in 12.0. Maybe youāre being notified about 12.1.
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### Author:  [@maplematt](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/maplematt)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2025, 1:44pm UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/yunohost-13-0-alpha-trixie/40197/14 "2025-10-30T13:44:09Z")
@jarod5001 PHP 5 & 8 coexist on this server. Web interface reports 12.0.17. And cli command returns:
```auto
yunohost:
repo: stable
version: 12.0.17
yunohost-admin:
repo: stable
version: 12.0.7.1
yunohost-portal:
repo: stable
version: 12.0.10
moulinette:
repo: stable
version: 12.0.4
ssowat:
repo: stable
version: 12.0.3
```
@Salamandar Yes, I see that the last package in the list is `yunohost (from 12.0.17 to 12.1.32)` But thatās not a major versionā¦?
Regardless, I believe that addresses my confusion and _if_ something breaks Iāll open a new topic in the relevant area.
Thanks and Happy Halloween š» š
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### Author:  [@Salamandar](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/Salamandar)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2025, 3:28pm UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/yunohost-13-0-alpha-trixie/40197/15 "2025-10-30T15:28:02Z")
We should check the webdmin code that shows this message, but well ĀÆ\_(ć)\_/ĀÆ
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### Author:  [@Aleks](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/Aleks)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2025, 3:44pm UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/yunohost-13-0-alpha-trixie/40197/16 "2025-10-30T15:44:29Z")
> [@maplematt](#):
>
> the last package in the list is `yunohost (from 12.0.17 to 12.1.32)` But thatās not a major versionā¦?
Itās a major version in the sense of yunohost, or in the sense of āpossible major and breaking changes when you upgradeā ā¦ all of this considering that the first number (11, 12, 13ā¦) corresponds to Debianās version, therefore the second number is kind of a āmajorā version tooā¦ If you have any word in mind that would make more sense, feel free to share it
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### Author:  [@maplematt](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/maplematt)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2025, 4:47pm UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/yunohost-13-0-alpha-trixie/40197/17 "2025-10-30T16:47:09Z")
AH! Now that I know that logic/distinction, I understand. Thank you!
My knowledge of versioning is limited to how itās used in a situation where it only involves the particular piece software itself and not incorporating theā¦ foundation(?) upon which it is built. As you can guess.
The only suggestion I can really think of here would be to separate the Debian version from the project/product version, but there is likely a valid reason for it being this way and I wouldnāt be surprised if Iām part of a minority of users who got confused.
Also Iām certain this information is somewhere and that I could have seen it if I had read more about YNH. Frankly though, Iāve been using YNH since before Debian 11 IIRC and aside from oddities here and there that were not all-breaking, I never felt the need to go read the docs beyond the initial install.
TL;DR: Typical user stuff š