# Borg Backup App usage
**URL:** https://forum.yunohost.org/t/borg-backup-app-usage/14376
**Category:** Support
**Tags:** english
**Created:** [February 3, 2021, 10:50am UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/borg-backup-app-usage/14376 "2021-02-03T10:50:31Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@Wh1sper](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/Wh1sper)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2021, 10:50am UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/borg-backup-app-usage/14376/1 "2021-02-03T10:50:31Z")
First: I’m deeply impressed from this project, **very exciting!**
I do have a question about borg backup
### My YunoHost server
**Hardware:** Old laptop at home
**YunoHost version:** 4.1.7
**I have access to my server :** Through SSH | through the webadmin
**Are you in a special context or did you perform some particular tweaking on your YunoHost instance ?** : no
### Description of my issue
I installed the borg backup app.
I do own a rootserver @hetzner, too.
This Server does borg backups to a hetzner storage server with enough space for additional usage.
So I’m trying to backup my yunohost as well.
I wonder how is borg going to be started?
Via cron it is not, I guess?
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### Author:  [@ljf](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/ljf)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2021, 10:58am UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/borg-backup-app-usage/14376/2 "2021-02-03T10:58:42Z")
It’s a systemd timer that run the borg service
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### Author:  [@Wh1sper](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/Wh1sper)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2021, 11:01am UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/borg-backup-app-usage/14376/3 "2021-02-03T11:01:32Z")
Ok, an old man should slowly think in modern systemd ways 😉
Thank you!
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### Author:  [@Wh1sper](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/Wh1sper)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2021, 10:02am UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/borg-backup-app-usage/14376/4 "2021-02-04T10:02:03Z")
As far as I am see the borg app lacks a descritpion how to set up the service correctly.
A new ssh key was generated under /root/.ssh/id\_borg\_ed25519
But one should inform the admin to put this /root/.ssh/id\_borg\_ed25519.pub
at the end of the authorized\_key file on the borg archive server.
one could test at the commandline on the yunohost like this
`sftp -P 23 -i .ssh/id_borg_ed25519 uabc@uabc.your-storagebox.de:yuno`
It should work without password
After that an execution of backup-with-borg should work.
Isit ok, so far?
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### Author:  [@arkadi](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/arkadi)
#### Post date: [February 17, 2021, 7:29am UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/borg-backup-app-usage/14376/5 "2021-02-17T07:29:17Z")
Before you get setup with Borg, I would recommend looking into Restic.
I used to use Borg, but it’s so complicated imho. Restic has much simpler commands and is new, but under very active development.
> **[restic/restic](https://github.com/restic/restic)**
>
> Fast, secure, efficient backup program. Contribute to restic/restic development by creating an account on GitHub.
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### Author:  [@Wh1sper](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/Wh1sper)
#### Post date: [February 17, 2021, 9:20am UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/borg-backup-app-usage/14376/6 "2021-02-17T09:20:20Z")
Ohh, thanks for your tip.
Restic is definitely worth a look!
However, it’s apparently still at an early stage, so I don’t know if it should be relied upon in a production environment. (edit: just found the self-update feature, cool. )
I have had good experiences with Borg Backup so far, my root server is backed up with it and I appreciate the quick and easy restore. I have needed this a few times in the past 2 years.
Again, thanks for your advice, I’ll take a closer look and possibly use it in parallel with Borg.
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### Author:  [@ljf](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/ljf)
#### Post date: [February 17, 2021, 11:31am UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/borg-backup-app-usage/14376/7 "2021-02-17T11:31:46Z")
The process to install borg and borgserver together is describe here
> **[YunoHost-Apps/borg\_ynh](https://github.com/YunoHost-Apps/borg_ynh)**
>
> An experimental Borg implementation for YunoHost. Contribute to YunoHost-Apps/borg\_ynh development by creating an account on GitHub.
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### Author:  [@Wh1sper](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/Wh1sper)
#### Post date: [February 17, 2021, 12:57pm UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/borg-backup-app-usage/14376/8 "2021-02-17T12:57:03Z")
To be clear. For me it works perfectly with borg
My second last post was only to impress that the documentation could be more detailed how to setup it. That was my intention
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### Author:  [@system](https://forum.yunohost.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2021, 12:57pm UTC](https://forum.yunohost.org/t/borg-backup-app-usage/14376/9 "2021-03-04T12:57:40Z")
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